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photoblog image ....Rest in Peace?....

....Rest in Peace?....

 

This fresco from the 13th century is in the San Zeno Basilica, Verona. (LINK)

On a closer look, I saw that names were scratched into the paintings. (see Ginnie's post here)

'Theodor von Tillwerth' and 'Victor Oberlintner' both cadets in the Austrian army took the awful liberty to scratch in their names.

From papers I found on the internet (LINK) it says that Th. v. Tillwerth became an 'Unterlieutenant'... what a sad example to his men......

 

photoblog image DSC_6153SCa.JPG

....Rest in Peace?....

 

This fresco from the 13th century is in the San Zeno Basilica, Verona. (LINK)

On a closer look, I saw that names were scratched into the paintings. (see Ginnie's post here)

'Theodor von Tillwerth' and 'Victor Oberlintner' both cadets in the Austrian army took the awful liberty to scratch in their names.

From papers I found on the internet (LINK) it says that Th. v. Tillwerth became an 'Unterlieutenant'... what a sad example to his men......

 

photoblog image DSC_6153SCa.JPG

comments (14)

  • Ray
  • Not in United States
  • 9 Aug 2017, 00:48
It might be the most noteworthy thing he ever did in his Life, Astrid... sad
Picturit: That might be very sad then.... and what a waste of the fresco.
Astrid.
Totally Astrid! Couldn't agree more!
Picturit: I know, I could not believe my eyes and that is why I took some pictures up close.
Astrid.
What an amazing fresco! Nice color and light on your photo! Too bad about the self serving morons...
Picturit: You saw Ginnie's picture and yes this is such a drama with the ruining the fresco.
Thank you for your kind words.
Astrid.
Because I never went up close to the wall like you did, Astrid, I never saw this. So THANK YOU for seeing and capturing this! It really blows the mind that anyone would dare do this.
Picturit: I wanted to see it up close for I was intrigued what the 'white scribbling was'... not knowing that is was names scratched in.
I love that we could post 'together'.
Astrid.
  • Lisl
  • Bath, England
  • 9 Aug 2017, 06:30
Ho awful to deface this work of art. No excuses even though he was a young man
Picturit: Indeed, no excuse at all, they should have respect for the Church and the frescoes.
Astrid.
  • Chris
  • Not Nowhere
  • 9 Aug 2017, 06:31
Vandalism - big time Astrid
Picturit: I agree with you, this is not done ate all.
Astrid.
  • Philine
  • Germany
  • 9 Aug 2017, 07:28
Yes, how awful to scratch the names into the painting - there are some names, also your name! The wonderful fresco could depicture San Zeno. I especially remember the famous entrance door of Zan Zeno.
Picturit: You remember well, that door is just amazing, we spent a lot of time looking at it and finding some special things. That was quite the Cathedral.
Astrid.
  • Alan
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 9 Aug 2017, 08:18
So unwelcome graffiti? None of this was visible in Ginnie's wider view.
Picturit: Well if you have a good look at her picture, you see all the bottom frescoes show white scribbling.... you can see how big the damage is sad
Astrid.
You have added your own graffiti LAdy P. But yours is only pretend. What a strange thing to do. Theodor should have been ashamed of himself
Picturit: Mine can be washed off and does not leave any marks.... the others were quite deep and I was quite shocked to see the damage.
Astrid.
  • gutteridge
  • Somewhere in deep space
  • 9 Aug 2017, 11:26
Great to see a close up of what you were viewing on Ginnie's image. I suggested this was 13th Century Astrid, but on closer inspection I think it is early renaissance, so 14th century.
Picturit: I am impressed with you Chad. I found some information on the internet and it said 13th OR 14th..... so Ginnie asked, what is it 13 or 14... I said I don't know, okay I will just say 13... not knowing you noticed, so YES you are right and I apologize for the wrong information....
Astrid.
It seems there were many desecrations.
Picturit: Many as you can see also in Ginnie's picture, all the white scribbling is 'graffiti'...
Astrid.
You and Ginnie seem to be working as a team today Astrid, I've seen the introduction and here's the close-up, what an interesting painting and how fortunate it has survived the centuries.
Picturit: Ginnie showed me her picture, what see seldom does and I said that I had captured that fresco so we decided to work as a duo...
The frescoes are amazing and it is a miracle they still are alive.
Astrid.
  • Louis
  • South Africa
  • 9 Aug 2017, 23:07
I see also, someone by the name of "Astrid" wrote his/her name on the foot of the coffin grin

Question is: What are the Austrians doing in Verona, Italy? In 1861 the Italians successfully extracted themselves from the Austrian Empire and started consolidating the new Italian State/Kingdom. In 1866, Verona became part of the new Italian Kingdom. So, I think that in 1865 when the cadets wrote their names, Verona was occupied by Austrian forces. The Austrians would have been thinking lowly of Verona and its citizens at the time. This could lead to name writing expressions. The military may even have been quartered in the basilica, which was in a sad state of repair (the monastery collapsed a few years earlier). Whichever, they were clearly bored as many people who wrote here, before them. Early graffiti artists.
Picturit: Thank you for your long comment and history lesson. This makes it clear about the 'early graffiti artists'... My name is with water paint, you can just wash it off without damaging the rest...
Astrid.
The artwork is exquisite. How shameful that it has been defaced!
Picturit: I was shocked when I found out what I saw. The frescoes are just amazing.
Astrid.

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